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		<title>By: GreenAB</title>
		<link>http://acrossthecurve.com/?p=5302&#038;cpage=1#comment-9714</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 05:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you guys should get used to the idea of tax hikes, the sooner the better.

just have a look at yesterdays budget data and the estimates of earlier than estimated exhaustion of social security/medicare funds. 

to think that the us can borrow at this pace forever is naive.

so either public services will have to be drastically or taxes on whatever/whoever will have to go up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys should get used to the idea of tax hikes, the sooner the better.</p>
<p>just have a look at yesterdays budget data and the estimates of earlier than estimated exhaustion of social security/medicare funds. </p>
<p>to think that the us can borrow at this pace forever is naive.</p>
<p>so either public services will have to be drastically or taxes on whatever/whoever will have to go up!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 19:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gab-- yes, that does sound like the Obama administration.

First, Obama doesn&#039;t have any ideas of his own.  That was a big criticism Hilary Clinton had when campaigning -- she couldn&#039;t attack a non-existent platform.    As a congressman, Obama pretty much thought whatever Nancy Pelosi told him to think.   Now that he is president, he continues to get a lot of &quot;his&quot; ideas from his handlers in congress.

Second, the plan is being hatched &quot;behind closed doors&quot;.   Does that sound like a democracy?   Obama is acting exactly like the Bush gang, making decisions that fly in the face of American values and forcing them through without thought or debate.

Obama has his delegates to this mafia don meeting -- not that it matters since his opinion is whatever the extremists in Congress tell him it is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gab&#8211; yes, that does sound like the Obama administration.</p>
<p>First, Obama doesn&#8217;t have any ideas of his own.  That was a big criticism Hilary Clinton had when campaigning &#8212; she couldn&#8217;t attack a non-existent platform.    As a congressman, Obama pretty much thought whatever Nancy Pelosi told him to think.   Now that he is president, he continues to get a lot of &#8220;his&#8221; ideas from his handlers in congress.</p>
<p>Second, the plan is being hatched &#8220;behind closed doors&#8221;.   Does that sound like a democracy?   Obama is acting exactly like the Bush gang, making decisions that fly in the face of American values and forcing them through without thought or debate.</p>
<p>Obama has his delegates to this mafia don meeting &#8212; not that it matters since his opinion is whatever the extremists in Congress tell him it is</p>
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		<title>By: gab</title>
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		<dc:creator>gab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A better question would be, did anyone read the article?  Here&#039;s the evidence they muster...

&quot;Senior staff members for some Democratic senators at the center of the effort to craft health-care legislation are weighing the idea behind closed doors, Senate aides said.&quot;

Does that sound like the &quot;Obama Administration&quot; to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A better question would be, did anyone read the article?  Here&#8217;s the evidence they muster&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Senior staff members for some Democratic senators at the center of the effort to craft health-care legislation are weighing the idea behind closed doors, Senate aides said.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does that sound like the &#8220;Obama Administration&#8221; to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://acrossthecurve.com/?p=5302&#038;cpage=1#comment-9689</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are all forgetting the greatest growth story in recent decades:

the government should tax all the think tanks, university endowments, religious institutions, and non-profit organizations.

Universities increase tuition by twice the rate of GDP growth, never mind inflation.   Plus they pay no property taxes.   And they pay no taxes on their endowments.    Boston is having major revenue problems because the whole city is owned by Harvard, BC, BU, MIT, etc

The largest land owner in New York City is not Donald Trump.  By a huge margin, the Roman Catholic church is the largest real estate investor.   Its one thing to make actual churches tax free, but why are commercial properties owned by the church also tax free?

And the biggest growth industry in recent years has been the explosion of so-called non-profit organizations.  Every pet cause in the world has several of them.   Full time staff draw salaries and benefits plus the CEOs get perks just like their for profit counterparts.    The &quot;profits&quot; get split between the staff and the supported cause -- but otherwise the only difference is that these groups do not pay taxes.   Check out the compensation and perks given by United Way or some of the research hospitals

Half of our society (not counting government itself) does not pay any taxes...   that is not sustainable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are all forgetting the greatest growth story in recent decades:</p>
<p>the government should tax all the think tanks, university endowments, religious institutions, and non-profit organizations.</p>
<p>Universities increase tuition by twice the rate of GDP growth, never mind inflation.   Plus they pay no property taxes.   And they pay no taxes on their endowments.    Boston is having major revenue problems because the whole city is owned by Harvard, BC, BU, MIT, etc</p>
<p>The largest land owner in New York City is not Donald Trump.  By a huge margin, the Roman Catholic church is the largest real estate investor.   Its one thing to make actual churches tax free, but why are commercial properties owned by the church also tax free?</p>
<p>And the biggest growth industry in recent years has been the explosion of so-called non-profit organizations.  Every pet cause in the world has several of them.   Full time staff draw salaries and benefits plus the CEOs get perks just like their for profit counterparts.    The &#8220;profits&#8221; get split between the staff and the supported cause &#8212; but otherwise the only difference is that these groups do not pay taxes.   Check out the compensation and perks given by United Way or some of the research hospitals</p>
<p>Half of our society (not counting government itself) does not pay any taxes&#8230;   that is not sustainable</p>
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		<title>By: Bman</title>
		<link>http://acrossthecurve.com/?p=5302&#038;cpage=1#comment-9686</link>
		<dc:creator>Bman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the gov&#039;t really wants to raise money - tax reality tv shows and processed foods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the gov&#8217;t really wants to raise money &#8211; tax reality tv shows and processed foods.</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
		<link>http://acrossthecurve.com/?p=5302&#038;cpage=1#comment-9682</link>
		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why have sodas and little Debbie snack cakes, when you can have great wine and cheese? Vive la France!!
Or good beer and Pretzels, Wunderwalt! 
Or awesome tagliatelli al dente with extra virgin olive oil!
or a good Paella! 

The problem is that this society never learned how to eat well, we are always on a rush, having breakfast (hi calories bagels and bad coffee and soda) and lunch (microwave food or sandwiches with hi sugar iced tea and soda) at our desks in the office; and then we get home, and have a steak or hot dogs or pizza!

so... why not lower taxes on good wine, and encourage a full one hour lunch, with a decent meal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why have sodas and little Debbie snack cakes, when you can have great wine and cheese? Vive la France!!<br />
Or good beer and Pretzels, Wunderwalt!<br />
Or awesome tagliatelli al dente with extra virgin olive oil!<br />
or a good Paella! </p>
<p>The problem is that this society never learned how to eat well, we are always on a rush, having breakfast (hi calories bagels and bad coffee and soda) and lunch (microwave food or sandwiches with hi sugar iced tea and soda) at our desks in the office; and then we get home, and have a steak or hot dogs or pizza!</p>
<p>so&#8230; why not lower taxes on good wine, and encourage a full one hour lunch, with a decent meal.</p>
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		<title>By: Bman</title>
		<link>http://acrossthecurve.com/?p=5302&#038;cpage=1#comment-9677</link>
		<dc:creator>Bman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some of you are missing the point - the insane level of gov&#039;t intervention is stealing from any real growth prospects in the future.  And don&#039;t forget, all the government interventions are TEMPORARY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some of you are missing the point &#8211; the insane level of gov&#8217;t intervention is stealing from any real growth prospects in the future.  And don&#8217;t forget, all the government interventions are TEMPORARY.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some of you guys are going crazy, taxing a product never deters people from buying it, unless it is taxed upwards of 50% etc. Adding 3 cents to the cost of a soda is going to do nothing. Plus each parent should teach their child, most children can&#039;t pay for their own food/soda so really where is it coming from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some of you guys are going crazy, taxing a product never deters people from buying it, unless it is taxed upwards of 50% etc. Adding 3 cents to the cost of a soda is going to do nothing. Plus each parent should teach their child, most children can&#8217;t pay for their own food/soda so really where is it coming from?</p>
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		<title>By: John Jansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Jansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 13:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is great!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is great!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 13:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why stop there - why not massive tax increase on all fast food?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why stop there &#8211; why not massive tax increase on all fast food?</p>
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